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Revelation 19

-Multitude in heaven (Rev 19:1-6)

19And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: 2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand3 And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

When the term great is used, it means the most high or something to be the most powerful. This would be the final voice, all in heaven (paradise) are in agreement speaking in unison. Everyone here being of the spiritual realm already and of the spiritual understanding are speaking the spiritual truth together.

All these have come together to honor and recognize His righteousness and judgment, as Babylon falls. Babylon corrupted the earth with her earthly level teaching and fornication. She killed the saints and destroyed those at the beginning of time, those being the church (children of God)  that had the higher level or spiritual eye of the meaning of the Word. They purposely used the earthly level meaning to cover the heavenly level meanings and keep them from the people. This was done in essence through all earthly religions those that state they are Christian based and those that are different. These are all the spiritual fornication of Babylon herself, so to speak, they are in bed with anything other than Christ (God/Holy Spirit) whom they are supposed to be with, as we are to be the bride of Christ.

If you are understanding the Word only with your earthly vision, and not seeing it with your earthly eye (understanding) and spiritual eye (understanding), you will not have full understanding of what is meant to be known (the truth). Which in turn is why we need the Holy Spirit to help us to see and understand on a spiritual level what we are unable to do on our own without Her. We need the earthly together with the spiritual to understand the full heavenly meaning. Yet, like it states in Luke and the Gospel of Thomas, the keys have been hidden. So, the earthly understanding has been corrupted, but we can still see the truth with the keys that are here, just in books that people reject (the builders rejected the cornerstone).

4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.

The backing behind the use of the Great Whore and fornication, is because the government and the institutions/religions are all in bed together so to speak. Which is also why Jesus says that friendship with the world is enmity with God, this is why He refers to that as adultery. Technically, it is a forbidden union to be together with the world, but that is what the churches of the world have done for the last two thousand years or more. The standardized Christian church of the world has taken on the earthly meaning of God’s word and completely looked over the spiritual aspect of it, and in turn they have lost sight of the truth. They have pushed Jesus as a man (flesh only) and they do not grasp the parallelisms, metaphors, or parables. Over time the truth has been indoctrinated and theologized into something it is not, yet it has become the standard of the worldly church. This happening, blinds people from seeing the truth as it really is, and which would be like trying to see the snow how it appears, through foggy mud stained windows.

The saints have been vindicated here and the great whore is gone now and will never return. The four beasts corresponds with the six thousand years which I believe we have discussed in earlier chapters.

Revelation 4 7 and the first living creature [is] like a lion, and the second living creature [is] like a calf, and the third living creature hath the face as a man, and the fourth living creature [is] like an eagle flying.

Enoch 40.1 And after this I saw a thousand thousands and ten thousand times ten thousand! A multitude beyond number, or reckoning, who stood in front of the Glory of the Lord of Spirits. 40.2 I looked, and on the four sides of the Lord of Spirits, I saw four figures, different from those who were standing; and I learnt their names, because the Angel who went with me made known their names, and showed me all the secret things. 40.3 And I heard the voices of those four figures as they sang praises in front of the Lord of Glory. 40.4 The first voice blesses the Lord of Spirits forever and ever. 40.5 And the second voice I heard blessing the Chosen One and the chosen who depend on the Lord of Spirits. 40.6 And the third voice I heard, petitioned, and prayed, on behalf of those who dwell on dry ground and supplicate in the name of the Lord of Spirits. 40.7 And the fourth voice I heard driving away the Satans and not allowing them to come in front of the Lord of Spirits to accuse those who dwell on the high ground. 40.8 And after this I asked the Angel of Peace, who went with me, and showed me everything which is secret: “Who are those four figures, whom I have seen, and whose words I have heard and written down?” 40.9 And he said to me: “This first one, is the Holy Michael, the merciful and long-suffering. And the second, who is in charge of all the diseases, and in charge of all the wounds of the sons of men, is Raphael. And the third, who is in charge of all the powers, is the Holy Gabriel. And the fourth, who is in charge of repentance and hope of those who will inherit eternal life, is Phanuel.” 40.10 And these are the four Angels of the Lord Most High; and the four voices that I heard in those days.

These four beasts/four living creatures could very well be the four that are described above in Enoch 40, Michael, Raphael, Gabriel, and Phanuel. In Revelation it appears that you should know about these four and it seems that it’s assumed, that is if you have read the Book of Enoch. Throughout the Bible you don’t really get a good explanation as to who these beasts are, but with it being assumed that you know them and the only really good explanation of them being in Enoch, here again we see that this Book should have never been removed from the “Biblical text.” The importance of much understanding throughout history and the Bible and other text, Enoch is key to them all. It carries with it so much needed information, which is likely why they removed it, how would they have deceived the people otherwise.

5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great. 6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigns.

The great multitude would be all those that have been saved, and they are the voice in agreement speaking as one. The waters are the people of the many nations, peoples, and tongues which, have all become one. They are in agreement that the Lord God who is omnipotent reigns. The seven thunders are sealed up until the time of the end, which are possibly uttering their voices on that day.

(3rd) The wedding supper announced (Rev 19:7-10)

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. 9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

Remember Jesus and Christ have very different meanings, Jesus is the flesh or lower level, and Christ is the spiritual or heavenly level. Which in turn is the earthly level and the heavenly levels of meaning, which is how we get the full truth of things, part of it has to be given to us through the Holy Spirit. Just like, Peter giving him the title of Christ, because the Spirit/The Father in Heaven revealed that to him just as Christ stated in Matthew.

Matthew 16 15 He saith to them, `And ye — who do ye say me to be?’ 16 and Simon Peter answering said, `Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.’ 17 And Jesus answering said to him, `Happy art thou, Simon Bar-Jona, because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to thee, but my Father who is in the heavens.

What Jesus did as a man had a spiritual dimension and a physical dimension to each act, He is spirit and He is prophecy in all that He does. For instance, when He healed the blind man’s eyes, on the level of the physical it has to do with his physical sight, but on the level of the spiritual it has to do with the opening of his spiritual eyes so he could see the truth of God. If you only look at this in one aspect which is what the standardized church today does, they look and read things from only the physical (not to mention the missing books and mistranslation), you miss half of the whole meaning of things and in essence with certain things, miss the whole meaning. Peter being spoken to by “The Father who is in heaven,” is the Holy Spirit or the angels relying the truth of God to us, when we are willing to listen, that still small voice is God at work. This world has become so filled with noise that many people never hear that voice and wonder why. I’ve had a guy ask me that before, he said he didn’t know if he believed that, his wife said she heard it but he never had. Question is have you been in silence to hear it, or are you constantly surround by noise and distractions that would keep you from hear the Holy Spirit voice when She speaks?

10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

The angel here that is bring the message is saying, “Do not worship me,” because he is a servant of those that have the testimony of Christ Jesus, but God brings the spiritual aspect or the Spirit of prophecy.

(4th) King on a white horse (Rev 19:11-21)

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

Here he is seeing that the heavenly level meaning is opening up. Those who worship the Father should worship in Spirit and in truth. To do so you must think in spiritual aspects with all things, you don’t just have eyes, but you have spiritual eyes. Which can go along also with things like a day. I have pointed out before that a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years a day, so God created the world in six thousand years, so technically speaking this world is somewhere around twelve thousand years old. You can learn more about this in the Gospel of Barnabas as well as the Biblical verses 2 Peter 3:8 and Psalm 90:4. This being true also, when Jesus died in the flesh and returned on the third day that would spiritually be the third millennium since a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years a day. So Jesus as the Logos rose up on the third spiritual day and the Logos manifested Himself in the third millennium.

The Acts of John 101 Nothing, therefore, of the things which they will say of me have I suffered: nay, that suffering also which I showed unto thee and the rest in the dance, I will that it be called a mystery. For what thou art, thou seest, for I showed it thee; but what I am I alone know, and no man else. Suffer me then to keep that which is mine, and that which is thine behold thou through me, and behold me in truth, that I am, not what I said, but what thou art able to know, because thou art akin thereto. Thou hearest that I suffered, yet did I not suffer; that I suffered not, yet did I suffer; that I was pierced, yet I was not smitten; hanged, and I was not hanged; that blood flowed from me, and it flowed not; and, in a word, what they say of me, that befell me not, but what they say not, that did I suffer. Now what those things are I signify unto thee, for I know that thou wilt understand. Perceive thou therefore in me the praising (al. slaying al. rest) of the (or a) Word (Logos), the piercing of the Word, the blood of the Word, the wound of the Word, the hanging up of the Word, the suffering of the Word, the nailing (fixing) of the Word, the death of the Word. And so speak I, separating off the manhood. Perceive thou therefore in the first place of the Word; then shalt thou perceive the Lord, and in the third place the man, and what he hath suffered. (You can read the rest of this and many other books at this link: http://www.scriptural-truth.com/apocrypha_books.html)

The religious secular powers that be, brought the Logo (the Word) to a false trial which explains why they have removed books that are needed and brought about false teachings/religion itself and the canonization process. Everything that Christ did in the flesh He did as a living parable of the Logos. Which Him being the Word, (as stated above) that is what they buried under the earthly meaning, pierced, wounded, suffered, and hung. This explains so much with all the translations of the “Bible” that are mistranslated and all the books that have been removed. They have taken them out of sight of the people criticized and discredited them with false truths to lead the people away from God, the Spirit, Christ, and truth as much as possible.

Rev 6:2 and I saw, and lo, a white horse, and he who is sitting upon it is having a bow, and there was given to him a crown, and he went forth overcoming, and that he may overcome.

In Rev 19:11 we see the white horse like we did in Rev 6. It appears that this white horse was false religion. This is contrasted with Jesus who is the truth, which is called the Word of God.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

His clothes were His actions, deeds, and righteousness. They defiled His righteousness but it basically became a badge of honor for Him in the end. He is riding a white horse and we are riding with Him as His army. We are the bride of Christ that is to be arrayed in fine white linen without spot or blemish. We are going out to do battle with the earthly armies, kings, or teachers.  

15 And out of his mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Isaiah 11:4 And he hath judged in righteousness the poor, And decided in uprightness for the humble of earth, And hath smitten earth with the rod of his mouth, And with the breath of his lips he putteth the wicked to death. 5 And righteousness hath been the girdle of his loins, And faithfulness — the girdle of his reins.

The rod of His mouth, it’s a measuring rod, and the word canon has to do with the word cane, so this all has to do with the measure of something. Canon that is taught in the aspect that you may very well understand it to be is an accepted list of books that are seen as authoritative and anything else that has not been listed as accepted is not to be acknowledged or read. The rod of His mouth is actually what He says, and not some list of books that are established by the pharasitical counsels, which are the very ones He warned us about. It is what He says, that is the rod or the canon and it is solid.

Rev 14 18 and another messenger did come forth out from the altar, having authority over the fire, and he called with a great cry to him having the sharp sickle, saying, `Send forth thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth, because come to perfection have her grapes;’19 and the messenger did put forth his sickle to the earth, and did gather the vine of the earth, and did cast [it] to the great wine-press of the wrath of God;20 and trodden was the wine-press outside of the city, and blood did come forth out of the wine-press — unto the bridles of the horses, a thousand, six hundred furlongs. Gospel of Thomas 40 Jesus said, “A grapevine has been planted outside of the Father, but being unsound, it will be pulled up by its roots and destroyed.”

This vine being the vine of the earth, or the false vine are also the teachings of the earth, which will be cast into the great wine-press of the wrath of God.

Going back up to Rev 19:13 where it says about the vesture dipped in blood. We see the blood of the saints, and if you think about it wine is the blood of the grape. All these terms, are used throughout the book of Revelation to show those who are deceived or fixated on the level of the flesh or teach on the level of the flesh. Much of what Jesus did like healing the blind man is seen in the physical as a miracle, but it is so great that people focus only on the physical aspect of it and look past the spiritual aspect of it. People see that miracle being the greatness of that act, but it is so much more than just simply physically giving that man sight. In essence, humanity tends to cling to the physical and forget about the spiritual, so they miss so much of what is happening. Which is why the things that are revealed to us are revealed to us by God Himself, through the Holy Spirit.

16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords. 17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

Paul helps us out very well by filling in the blanks and giving us things we can use to figure out Revelation. (Read) 1 Thess 4:13-18 and Rev 19:17 they both speak of an angel with a loud voice. These are the saints that have become angelic. This is so, because if you remember Steven and the people referring to him as having the face of an angel (Acts 6:15). As well as Elijah at the transfiguration (Matt. 17:1-13) he was also in an angelic state. Adam and Eve also had the bright nature before sin, and you see that in the book of Adam and Eve, and Paul alludes to that book many times especially in 2 Corinthians. We will neither marry or be given in marriage, like the angels in heaven (Matt. 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34) so this will be our future state. (Read) 1 Thess 5:1-11 In 1 Thess 4 it starts out saying, “I do not wish you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep” the ones that are asleep here appear to be the ones that are asleep in the spiritual sense, not the physically dead. These are the people who don’t have the light, they don’t walk in the day they walk in the night. They are drunk on the earthly teachings. They are asleep in Jesus, but dead in Christ. These people in 1 Thess 5 are concerned about their souls and their salvation as well as being concerned about their brothers and sister being drunk with the night (false teachings), and falling for the lies. So, those that sleep in Jesus which is means in the bodily (physical) sense, this is them being so impressed by the physical deeds and resurrection that they lose sight of Jesus as the Logos. This would explain much of the Christian world today, they are so focused on the physical, that they are easily lead astray from the spiritual and all the things the Pharasitical counsels did to hide (burry) the Word (removing books), piercing the Word (inputting false translations), it was simply forgotten and overlooked for two thousand years. The hard question that has been on my mind for a while and I have come to the conclusion of the same thing that Paul is explaining here, those people that are dead in Christ, are not doomed, it says in 1 Thess 4:16 that, “the dead in Christ shall rise first.” So, all those who are asleep will somehow come out of that sleep. “The Lord will descend from heaven with a shout,” so the heavenly level (spiritual) meaning will be visible to them. At the (7th) trump of God, those who are dead will receive Christ (heavenly level meanings) “that which is not revealed by flesh and blood, but by the Father” (Remember what Jesus said about Peter?). If you are worried about those around you (family and friends), worry not, because “He will come with ten thousands of His saints,” “behold He comes with clouds (of witnesses).” Those of us who see the truth and it is revealed to us by the Holy Spirit, we are the clouds (armies of the elect), and we are the witnesses for these people. Which is why we have to press on with our studies, prayer, research, and listening to the Spirit as She speaks to us. The dead in Christ shall rise first, which means those shall be given the Christ nature, revelation, the Christ level meaning, the heavenly meaning, or the spiritual meaning/sight. Those who are alive and remain, being the New Testament and the New Testament prophets which have life in them, they are accepted in the churches and they remain, they shall be caught up together with them in the clouds. So, He is saying, that His Words will not return void. So, the destruction comes upon them by shinning a light, into the darkened, drunken, sleeping world. Where all lies of the night will be destroyed from them and they will see the truth. The night is the six thousand years. They are victims of false teachings which is why they are deceived or in Jesus words, they stumble. He is reassuring us here that God has not appointed us to wrath. No matter if we are awake or asleep we shall be together with Him! The great news is that the Christians shall have salvation weather they realize this for the two thousand years or not. He is going to battle against the institutions and come after those that hide the truth from His people.

Matt 24:27 for as the lightning doth come forth from the east (beginnings), and doth appear unto the west (endings) (the whole of the scriptures will be revealed from beginning to end), so shall be also the presence of the Son of Man; 28 for wherever the carcass may be, there shall the eagles (the dead church) be gathered together. 29 `And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from the heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken; 30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in the heaven; and then shall all the tribes of the earth smite the beast, and they shall see the Son of Man coming upon the clouds of the heaven (cloud of witnesses and armies of heaven), with power and much glory; 31 and he shall send his messengers with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his chosen from the four winds, from the ends of the heavens unto the ends thereof (so from the east to the west).

Again, so even if the people are asleep they will be saved, He will send His angels out with great trumpets as well as sending out His elect to help too.

19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 And the beast (religious institution) was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

You know how a little earlier in this chapter we talked about people being focused on the physical aspects of Jesus and not the spiritual. This focus also helps the false prophet deceive people, because he will be able to do miracles and people will not look at the spiritual aspect of them, but become in awe, drunken on his worldly works. You can see this in the world now, Satan is gathering everything that stands against God. They are preparing for battle, God’s people are coming to and so are Satan’s people. Which is why there are several of us separating from the institution and diligently seeking God through the Holy Spirit. We are coming out of the wood works, all different paths behind us but leading straight ahead to God and letting it be made known who God truly is, and not what the world and the worldly religious institutions have made Him to be. We have been give the Power, the Sword, the truth of God’s word. We are given the orders to do as we are to do, and we have to be given the ability to do this. Enoch 1:9; Jude 14 and 15, we are to wage war against them, they gather against us (the religious institution) and we gather against them. The beast which is the religious institution (false Christianity) and with the false prophet are destroyed being cast into the lake of fire.

Gospel of Thomas 29) Jesus said, If the flesh (The lower-level of the Scriptures) came into being because of spirit (That the higher, Spiritual level is couched in the lower, physical level), it is a wonder. But if spirit (The higher level meaning, by means of the Holy, Elect Children) came into being because of the body (Born of the Woman, or the flesh and blood, reproducing after the, lower, fleshly meaning of the Scriptures), it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this great wealth (The higher level meaning of the Scriptures) has made its home (Couched itself) in this poverty (The lower level meaning of the Scriptures).

The fact that the spirit has couched itself in the flesh, is the thing that give the antichrist that false teaching/false Christianity that is what give them the power to lie. In other words they took Christ and made Him Jesus to twist the truth and deceive the people. The false prophet that has been spoken about, is described in 2 Thess 2.

2 Thess 2:8 and then shall be revealed the Lawless One, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the manifestation of his presence, 9 [him,] whose presence is according to the working of the Adversary, in all power, and signs, and lying wonders, 10 and in all deceitfulness of the unrighteousness in those perishing, because the love of the truth they did not receive for their being saved, 11 and because of this shall God send to them a working of delusion, for their believing the lie, 12 that they may be judged — all who did not believe the truth, but were well pleased in the unrighteousness.

The lying wonders is the flesh, because they did not love the truth. This is in reference to the ones who lulled the people to sleep. This false teaching exist up until that day and that is why they are cast alive into the brimstone, they will still be in this world running the religion/false Christianity. All religions, secularism, any that deny the old or new testament, atheism, or any man made religions that have nothing to do with Christianity will be destroyed by the truth, by the words of Jesus, or the sword that comes out of His mouth. Because of Christ Word (sword), we are able to overcome false religion and the entire established order or institution.

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Is Hell Eternal, Is It Even Just Hell?

In the accepted cannon, they have translated Hell down to one place; this in fact is not true there are several levels to what the translators (scribes and Pharisees) changed into Hell. There is Paradise, Sheol or Hades, Hell, Lake of Fire, and the bottomless pit. Another thing I would like to talk about through this is, about hell being eternal per the English and aion or aionios per the Greek or eon if you say it in English.

In Luke 16:22-26 you read about Lazarus and the rich man, here it talks about Abraham’s bosom. 22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

Young’s Literal Translation Luke 16:23 – and in the hades having lifted up his eyes, being in torments, he doth see Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom

The beggar is not in hell, he is in Hades or sheol which is next to Paradise from what is said here. The flame of his torment is the refinement of God’s fire; it’s the acknowledgement of your debts and along with whatever discomfort comes being before the Might God knowing you are wrong and dealing with all the things done while you were on the earth.

Luke 23:43 – “And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise (Paradisos).”

2 Corinthians 12:2-4 – “I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven (Treetos Ooranos). 3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4 How that he was caught up into paradise (Paradisos), and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.”

Revelation 2:7 – “He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise (Paradios) of God.”

(These verses all say the third heaven and pardise in the Young’s Literal Translation and the Greek Textus Receptus. I’ve found of my years of research and study that no all of the translations are wrong, but bits and pieces are translated wrong just enough to change the meaning of things, as well as bits and pieces of the actual Word of God have been removed and the Canon be built around ways to get by but keep us at bay from knowing the full truth of God.)

After reading Luke 16 verses above and the other verses we have confirmation that there is indeed a paradise, as Jesus spoke it on the cross as well as the rich man and the beggar teaching. So the separation of paradise, hell, hades or sheol, and the lake of fire are all clustered into one in the English translation. Which in example, if you took New Orleans, Paris, New York and called them all Paris, it would be incorrect and leave much out that would be known about the two that have been lumped into Paris as well as their locations. So hell is not one place, nor does it carry the same meanings or locations behind it that the others do. This should be common logic to anyone who actually reads God’s word.

Hebrews 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Proverbs 3:12 For whom the LORD loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

Revelation 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Job 5:17-18
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: 18 For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole.
(These verses all say chasten or correct in the Young’s Literal Translation.)

God says, that those whom He loves, He disciplines, which is the refining fire. To purify gold they refine it in the fire, which is what God does to those who do not make it to Paradise. He gives us free will and we can choose to follow Him or the devil, we follow Love or we follow corruption, but no matter what we choose, we are still His children and He still loves us dearly, each and every one of us. Just as we would do anything for our children, and our love being earthly and it doesn’t compare to His at all, can you imagine how He must feel for us. We spank our children because we love them, to teach them right and wrong, spankings hurt, but they help mold us for the better. This is in a sense what God will do to those who do not make it to paradise, though I’m not entirely sure what their disciplines will be, there will be some form of refinement or purification.

Matthew 5:26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing. (YLT is the same)

This says we will pay our debt to the last penny basically that we owe for what we did on earth.

Matthew 25:41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

YLT Matt. 245:41 Then shall he say also to those on the left hand, go ye from me, the cursed to the fire, the age-during, that hath been prepared for the devil and his messengers.

Acts 2:27 “Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell (Hades/Sheol), neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.”

YLT Acts 2:27 because thou wilt not leave my soul to hades, nor wilt thou give thy Kind One to see corruption;

They will be there for a time, not eternity, until they pay the last penny of their debt. In the Greek they use the word Aion or Eon which means for a time or for an age. That tells you that no soul will be left there forever or eternally as they have translated out the true word aion or eon and input the English word eternal.

Also, if you look in Jonah when it talks about him being in the belly of the whale, it states in some versions hell and eternal or forever, but that makes no sense, as Jonah was in the belly of the whale for three days. Also, this shows and example of how we can be saved from this place, because you have to think that being in the belly of that whale, no one would have survived three days. So, when Jonah realized his wrong and came to terms with what he needed to do, God released him and brought him to life. It’s a matter of people in sheol or hades, or hell coming to terms with God and paying what debt they owe to the last cent. God does bring all unto Himself eventually, and every knee will bow eventually, and every tongue will confess eventually, and all tears and pain will be wiped away.

KJV Jonah 2:2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice…Jonah 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O Lord my God.

YLT Jonah 2:2 And he saith: I called, because of my distress, to Jehovah, and He doth answer me, from the belly of sheol I have cried, thou hast heard my voice…Jonah 2:6 To the cuttings of mountains I have come down, the earth her bars [are] behind me to the age. And Thou bringest up from the pit my life, O Jehovah my God.

1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
YLT 1 Tim. 2:4 who doth will all men to be saved, and to come to the full knowledge of the truth.

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is long-suffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

YLT 2 Peter 3:9 the Lord is not slow in regard to the promise, as certain count slowness, but is long-suffering to us, not counseling any to be lost but all to pass on to reformation,

John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might (would) be saved.

YLT John 3:16-17 in this we have known the love, because He for us his life did lay down, and we ought for the brethren the lives to lay down; and whosoever may have the goods of the world, and may view his brother having need, and may shut up his bowels from him—how doth the love of God remain in him?

God didn’t send Christ, because He might save, He sent Christ because He would save. His Son’s death will not be in vain. Also, if you read the two verses, they are different, very different. This is one of the pivotal verses in Christianity.

I kept reading in comparison to the KJV and it’s very different as you keep reading. The Young’s on the major Bible sites may not be the correct version, but a newer or updated version that is very different from the actual. I have the Edinburgh, January 1898 which was the second edition to the first from Edinburgh, Sept 10th 1862. I found it on Bible Gateway, but it doesn’t tell me what translation it is, but when I put in young’s and it says modern in the selections as I scroll so I’m not sure what this version is, but it does not match the original one at all. Sorry I got off topic there, I’m just really glad I found that so I do use that version.

Isaiah 53:5-6 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all…..10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

YLT Isaiah 53:5-6 And he is pierced for our transgressions, bruised for our iniquities, the chastisement of our peace is on him, and by his bruise there is healing to us. All of us like sheep have wandered, each to his own way we have turned, and Jehovah hath cased to meet on him, the punishment of us all…And Jehovah hath delighted to bruise him, He hath made him sick, if his soul doth make an offering for guilt, He seeth seed—he prolongeth days, and pleasure of Jehovah in his hand doth prosper.

Christ came to save all, all meaning all not some or a few, all. He defeated death and hell when He went down to preach to the lost in prison which would be hades, sheol, or hell, defeat means to conquer, completely. He says that every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that He is Lord. God’s will is more powerful than our little minds can imagine. So much so that He put His own Son on the cross for us, and in doing so, it will not have been done in vain. He came for all to save all. Though some would reject Him, He still loves them. He will show them the truth and because of their stubbornness and false beliefs from this world, will face the refinement and pay the debt on which they owe to the last penny, but they will still at some point return to God themselves.

Revelation 21:4
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

YLT Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away every tear from their eyes, and the death shall not be anymore, nor sorrow, nor crying, nor shall there be any more pain, because the first things did go away.

It says that He will wipe away every tear and no more pain, this would not be possible, if people where “burning in hell for eternity.”
Romans 4:11
And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:

YLT Romans 4:11 And a sign he did receive of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith in the uncircumcision, for his being father of all those believing through uncircumcision, for the righteousness also being reckoned to them,

Philippians 2:10-11
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

YLT Philippians 2:10-11 that in the name of Jesus every knee may bow –of heavenlies and eathlies, and what are under the earthAnd that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

If every tongue is going to confess, that means all, just as Christ came to save all.

Revelation 20:13-21:1 – “And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell (Hades) delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell (Hades) were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”

The sea here is the church, and it giving up the dead is in accordance with the knowing of those who are false teachers and prophets, which are to be delivered to Hades because of their works and their sin of either disbelief or knowing the truth and hiding it inside lies to deceive God’s children/church/people. For a time aion, they will be delivered here for refinement, the only other option really is that they would be completely destroyed, because there will be no more pain or tears at some point and that would not be possible if there were still these false teachers and prophets in torment. Torment not meaning they are being ripped apart technically, but they are facing the truth of what they did on this earth, they are paying in full to the last penny for the things they have done and the debt they owe according to God. Once the new heaven and new earth are formed, there will be no more need for a sea/church, because we will all be with God and there will be no separation any longer. Things will be as God meant them to be.

Enoch 51.1 And in those days the Earth will return that which has been entrusted to it, and Sheol will return that which has been entrusted to it and that which it has received. And destruction will return what it owes.

So for all that has been done on this earth and the corruption that has been brought by Lucifer, the fallen angels, and the people who have willingly followed them or been lured by them through deceitful things will be brought down. All that they saw as truth and all the lies they stood on will crumble beneath them and they will be no more. Again, like we read in Matthew 5:26 all of this and each of them will pay what they owe.

Enoch 54.5 And he said to me: “These are being prepared for the hosts of Azazel, so that they may take them, and throw them into the lowest part of hell; and they will cover their jaws with rough stones, as the Lord of Spirits commanded.

This is talking about the immeasurably weighted chains that are being prepared for Azazel and his host. It speaks of the lowest part of hell, which in turn tells us that there are even levels to hell.

Hell being more than one place as I have shown above, and then we come to the eternal part of it, the words that are used in the Greek to describe was is translated into eternally in hell are kolasij aion.

Word: kolasij Pronounce: kol’-as-is Greek: κολασιν
Strongs Number: G2851
Orig: from 2849; penal infliction:–punishment, torment. G2849
Use: TDNT-3:816,451 Noun Feminine
1) correction, punishment, penalty

An aion or eon means an age or a time. It doesn’t make much sense that it would be forever if every tear was wiped away and there was no more pain. Kolasij which is given above can mean correction and in the context in which this is written it does mean correction, just as God states that He disciplines those He loves and He loves us all.

Strong’s Greek: 165. αἰών (aión) — a space of time, an age –biblehub.com/greek/165.htm
Definition: an age, a cycle (of time), especially of the present age

Word: aiwn Pronounce: ahee-ohn’ Greek: αιων
Strongs Number: G165
Orig: from the same as 104; properly, an age; by extension, perpetuity (also past); by implication, the world; specially (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future):–age, course, eternal, (for) ever(-more), (n-)ever, (beginning of the , while the) world (began, without end). Compare 5550. G104
Use: TDNT-1:197,31 Noun Masculine

Matthew 25:46 for example, the way this word is used is αιωνιον or aionios which is in context age-long. An Age does not mean eternal but in some instances they will try to make it seem as such, I believe what they were portraying which actually makes logical sense in all the instances where this is used besides when God speaks of the punishment for the fallen angels which it is possible they will be destroyed, is that it is a long period of time it’s not quick like our lives, it might be longer than even we will live. The only time that the word eternal should apply possibly as it is in the English meaning is for the angels.

In the Young’s Literal Translation Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away to punishment age-during, but the righteous to live age-during.

KJV Matthew 25:46 – And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Greek Textus Receptus
και απελευσονται ουτοι εις κολασιν αιωνιον οι δε δικαιοι εις ζωην αιωνιον

I found the article below which explained what I’ve written above exactly as I was trying to explain it and had previously researched this info before coming across this, but this is well written so I wanted to add this in to point out some facts that many people are unaware of, as well as reiterate what I’ve stated above. If you don’t dig you will remain on the surface of mans word and man’s world and you will miss God’s Word and the Heavenly Wisdom of the Holy Spirit.
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“Eternal” Punishment (Matthew 25:46) Is NOT Found In The Greek New Testament.
By Tony Nungesser and Gary Amirault

The entire concept of eternal or everlasting punishment hinges primarily on a single verse of Scripture– Matthew 25:46. This is the only place in the entire Bible where we find these two words together AND only in some Bibles. There are over a dozen English translations which do NOT contain the concept of “eternal punishment” on ANY of their pages, NOR the pagan concept of Hell.

The Greek form for “everlasting punishment” in Matthew 25:46 is ”kolasin aionion.” Kolasin is a noun in the accusative form, singular voice, feminine gender and means “punishment, chastening, correction, to cut-off as in pruning a tree to bare more fruit.” “Aionion” is the adjective form of “aion,” in the singular form and means “pertaining to an eon or age, an indeterminate period of time.” (Note: the two words in many, not all translations become reversed when bringing the Greek into English, that is, “kolasin aionion” literally punishment everlasting is reversed to everlasting punishment so as to make better sense in English.)

“Aionion,” as shown above, is the singular form of the adjective of the Greek noun “aion.” Many people unfamiliar with the Greek do not realize that the endings of the same word change (inflection) to indicate its mood, case, gender, etc. Therefore, “aionion” may appear with different endings. “Aionion, aioniou, aionios,” for example, are all different inflections of the adjective form of the noun “aion.”

The noun “aion” in Greek literature has always meant “an indeterminate period of time. It could be as short as the time Jonah spent in the belly of a fish (three days or nights even though the KJV has him in the “belly of Hell” “forever,” obviously a mistranslation; see Jonah 2:2, 2:6.), the length of a man’s life, or as long as an age.

The Bible speaks of at least 5 “aions” and perhaps many more. If there were “aions” in the past, then aions must have an end. The New Testament writers spoke of “the present wicked aion” which ended during that very generation. Obviously, it was followed by another “aion”– the “aion” in which we presently live. If there are “aions” to come, it must mean that this one we live in will also end.

There is a verse which says “the consummation of the aions” proving that each “aion” ends. So how can they be eternal?

There is “the coming eon” (Matt.10:30, Luke 18:30
There is “the present wicked eon” (Gal.1:4)
There is “the oncoming eons (future)(Eph.2:7)
There is “the conclusion of the eon (present) (Mt.13:39,40)
There is “the secret concealed from the eons (past) (Eph.3:9)

Plainly, the Greek word “aion” transliterated “eon” cannot mean “eternal.” A study into the Greek of the Biblical period and before will bear this out.

“Aionion” is the adjective of the noun “aion.”

Since grammar rules mandate an adjective CANNOT take on a greater force than its noun form, it is evident that “aionion” in any of its adjective forms (ios, ou, on) CANNOT possibly mean “everlasting” or anything remotely indicating eternity or unending time.

For example, “hourly” cannot mean “pertaining to days, weeks, months, or years. The word MUST mean “pertaining to an hour.” Therefore, “aionion,” the adjective form of the noun “aion” which clearly means a period of indeterminate TIME, CANNOT mean, “forever and ever, eternal, everlasting, eternity, etc.” or other words which connote timelessness or unending ages.

Therefore, those many Bibles which do NOT contain the teaching of everlasting punishment or Hell are true to the original languages of Greek and Hebrew. Those which teach everlasting punishment or Hell are false. Scholars are just as easily subjected to the “traditions of the elders” as the rest of us. It’s time to let the original Greek and Hebrew languages of the Bible break down the traditions of men.

Here is a list of Bibles which have taken major steps towards correcting many of the corruptions found in the King James Bible, NIV, NASB, NRSV, Amplified, as well as other leading selling Bibles:
Some of them are published by leading Evangelical Christian publishers like Baker Book House, Kregal and Eerdman’s Publishing. Here’s a partial list of some English Bible translations that do NOT contain Hell nor the concept of everlasting punishment: Rotherham’s Emphasized Bible (Kregal Publishers), Young’s Literal Translation of the Holy Bible (Baker Book House Publishers; Robert Young is author of the famous Young’s Concordance), Concordant Literal Translation of the N.T. (Concordant Publishing Concern), Scarlet’s New Testament (Nathaniel Scarlett, 1798), The New Testament (Abner Kneeland, 1823) Emphatic Diaglott (Greek/English Interlinear), The New Covenant (J.W. Hanson, 1884), New Testament in Modern Speech (Weymouth, 1910), The Restoration of Original Sacred Name Bible (1976), The Twentieth Century New Testament (1900), The New Testament of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Anointed (James L. Tomanek)1958), The Western New Testament (1926), The New Testament, a Translation (Rev. Edgar Lewis Clementson, 1938), The People’s New Testament (Arthur Overbury), The New Testament, A New Translation based upon the Oldest Manuscripts (Johannes Greber, 1980) Jonathan Mitchell New Testament (2009) Far Above All New Testament (2009).
There are other translations like the Companion Bible King James Version, American Standard Version (1901), the Newberry Reference Bible (Still published by Kregal Publications), and the Riverside New Testament by Ballantine (1934) which contain footnotes, marginal readings and appendages which point out that several key Greek and Hebrew words have been MIStranslated by such Bible versions as the King James Bible.

Is Hell really “Hell”? Is it really going to be Eternal?

As with all other aspects of the Bible and all these different English translations, if you do not take them back to the first books like the Greek Septuagint or the early church fathers which where the disciples of the disciples of Christ, you will be missing the meat of God’s word. God says that EVEN THE ELECT WILL BE LEAD ASTRAY.   We need to realize this statement as it is, and be aware of the things that have happened over time. Gnostic beliefs have crept into modern day Christianity, right along with these false translations of the original Word of God which is without error. The Dead Sea scrolls match up with the Septuagint, and show that this book is better for us to learn from. The Hebrew Masoretic text which is what our modern day Bible is based off of, does not match up with the Dead Sea scrolls.

There are so many connections in History that provide us with direction, yet most Christians refuse to even look at them and see the Truth God has left us bread crumbs to. Be not stubborn but willing to test the works and allow God to give you discernment to see what has been hidden from us and therefore laid the majority of Christians into an ignorant bed where much of them have conjured up hate upon so many and either pushed them away from Christ, or persecuted Christ Himself because they have persecuted those who are His.

I have been researching and studying for a while now trying to determine the validity of the statement I heard growing up from people, “you will burn in hell for eternity” which from my understanding, many have been taught. The English meaning of the word eternal, I cannot validate because it is used elsewhere in the Bible differently. The Greek word aionos and Hebrew work olam which has been translated in describing eternal hell means for a time. The Bible tells us that Jonah was in the belly of the whale for aionos and this was 3 days.

It says that those who are reconciled to Jesus Christ will be saved as though they had no sin. We are not righteous and sinless on our own, it takes Christ in us to be seen by God as sinless (2 Cor. 5:18-19). As for those who are not in Christ, they will be refined as by fire (1 Peter 1:7; Isaiah 48:10; Zechariah 13:9; Revelation 3:18). He says AS BY FIRE, I’m not certain what this means, it could literally be a fire, or just the supreme power and holiness of the presence of God purging them in some way to make them see the Truth, that God is and cause them to look to Jesus that they would also be saved. It’s also possible that when God judges them and does not see Christ, they also see themselves the way God sees them and are shamed because of it, and live in this state for a time. 1 Cor 3:15 he says that if the works shall be consumed he shall suffer loss but still be saved, again through the fire. It says here BUT STILL BE SAVED.

God loves us whether we want Him to or not, and we will be enveloped in it always once this world is passed. It is our choice no matter what, and at some point, maybe all people (humans with the DNA God created us with), and all meaning ALL will be in the love of God as He intended it to be, to begin with.

Here like I have been trying get across, all these translations are not good, they have been indoctrinated and different theology has caused them to have a different meaning than what was first meant. I do believe the first text was the inerrant Word of God, but since it has been twisted and molded to fit the opinions of those that translated the text instead of it being a direct translation/copy into another language, not to mention the Pharisees themselves removed books that God intended to be in the “Bible.”

Referenced Verses:

2 Cor. 5:18-19
18Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, 19namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

1 Cor 3:11-15
11For other foundation can no man lay besides that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if any one build upon this foundation, gold, silver, precious stones, wood, grass, straw, 13the work of each shall be made manifest; for the day shall declare it, because it is revealed in fire; and the fire shall try the work of each what it is. 14If the work of any one which he has built upon the foundation shall abide, he shall receive a reward. 15If the work of any one shall be consumed, he shall suffer loss, but he shall be saved, but so as through the fire.

1 Peter 1:7 so that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ;

Isaiah 48:10 “Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tested you in the furnace of affliction.

Zechariah 13:9″And I will bring the third part through the fire, Refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, And I will answer them; I will say, ‘They are My people,’ And they will say, ‘The Lord is my God.'”

Revelation 3:18 I advise you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself, and that the shame of your nakedness will not be revealed; and eye salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see.

Jonah 1:17And the Lord appointed a great fish to swallow Jonah, and Jonah was in the stomach of the fish three days and three nights.

[Three days and nights here is aion or aionos in the Greek or Olam in the Hebrew.]

You can read this for a little more indepth information on this aspect: http://planofgod.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/how-long-was-jonah-in-the-belly-of-the-beast-how-long-is-forever/

aión: a space of time, an age
Original Word: αἰών, ῶνος, ὁ Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine Transliteration: aión Phonetic Spelling: (ahee-ohn’) Short Definition: an age, a cycle of time Definition: an age, a cycle (of time), especially of the present age as contrasted with the future age, and of one of a series of ages stretching to infinity.

You can see how people could mold their view point’s depending on what translation they read.

Well, consider these translations of Acts 2:27:

NIV: because you will not abandon me to the grave, nor will you let your Holy One see decay NLV: For you will not leave my soul among the dead or allow your Holy One to rot in the grave. NASB: BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT ABANDON MY SOUL TO HADES, NOR ALLOW YOUR HOLY ONE TO UNDERGO DECAY. KJV: Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Here, we see the translations of the term “Hades” into English from various translators. When reading these passages above, do you not see a significant difference between their meanings as a result?

The term Hades seems to be equivelant to the term “Sheol” from the Old Testament:

KJV: For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell (SHEOL); neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. – Psalms 16:10 KJV: For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell (SHEOL). – Psalms 86:13 KJV: Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell (HADES), neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. – Acts 2:27

So, the KJV was crafted around the common Protestant and Catholic doctrine of Heaven and Hell, as the KJV (along with some other Bibles) LITERALLY translate the exact same word “HADES” to mean Hell, 10 times out of 11. Yet, the term means the “realm of the dead”, not “Hell” and appears to be the equivelant to “SHEOL” found within the Old Testament.

There is only one verse out of about 33,000 in the Bible that may say “eternal torment”, namely:

“And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. ” – King James Bible – Revelation 20:10

You can use this page as a reference to more indepth information on this. http://www.godrules.net/articles/eternaldeath.htm

http://www.godrules.net/articles/bibleterminology.htm#heavenhell

You can check out these videos:
Part 1 of 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4q1pb2-Y2Q

Eastern beliefs and Western beliefs differ greatly here. If you notice, there are great things happening in the East and we seem to be asleep in the West.   Here is another good tool to use to draw your own conclusions about this.

http://aggreen.net/beliefs/heaven_hell.html