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Is Hell really “Hell”? Is it really going to be Eternal?

As with all other aspects of the Bible and all these different English translations, if you do not take them back to the first books like the Greek Septuagint or the early church fathers which where the disciples of the disciples of Christ, you will be missing the meat of God’s word. God says that EVEN THE ELECT WILL BE LEAD ASTRAY.   We need to realize this statement as it is, and be aware of the things that have happened over time. Gnostic beliefs have crept into modern day Christianity, right along with these false translations of the original Word of God which is without error. The Dead Sea scrolls match up with the Septuagint, and show that this book is better for us to learn from. The Hebrew Masoretic text which is what our modern day Bible is based off of, does not match up with the Dead Sea scrolls.

There are so many connections in History that provide us with direction, yet most Christians refuse to even look at them and see the Truth God has left us bread crumbs to. Be not stubborn but willing to test the works and allow God to give you discernment to see what has been hidden from us and therefore laid the majority of Christians into an ignorant bed where much of them have conjured up hate upon so many and either pushed them away from Christ, or persecuted Christ Himself because they have persecuted those who are His.

I have been researching and studying for a while now trying to determine the validity of the statement I heard growing up from people, “you will burn in hell for eternity” which from my understanding, many have been taught. The English meaning of the word eternal, I cannot validate because it is used elsewhere in the Bible differently. The Greek word aionos and Hebrew work olam which has been translated in describing eternal hell means for a time. The Bible tells us that Jonah was in the belly of the whale for aionos and this was 3 days.

It says that those who are reconciled to Jesus Christ will be saved as though they had no sin. We are not righteous and sinless on our own, it takes Christ in us to be seen by God as sinless (2 Cor. 5:18-19). As for those who are not in Christ, they will be refined as by fire (1 Peter 1:7; Isaiah 48:10; Zechariah 13:9; Revelation 3:18). He says AS BY FIRE, I’m not certain what this means, it could literally be a fire, or just the supreme power and holiness of the presence of God purging them in some way to make them see the Truth, that God is and cause them to look to Jesus that they would also be saved. It’s also possible that when God judges them and does not see Christ, they also see themselves the way God sees them and are shamed because of it, and live in this state for a time. 1 Cor 3:15 he says that if the works shall be consumed he shall suffer loss but still be saved, again through the fire. It says here BUT STILL BE SAVED.

God loves us whether we want Him to or not, and we will be enveloped in it always once this world is passed. It is our choice no matter what, and at some point, maybe all people (humans with the DNA God created us with), and all meaning ALL will be in the love of God as He intended it to be, to begin with.

Here like I have been trying get across, all these translations are not good, they have been indoctrinated and different theology has caused them to have a different meaning than what was first meant. I do believe the first text was the inerrant Word of God, but since it has been twisted and molded to fit the opinions of those that translated the text instead of it being a direct translation/copy into another language, not to mention the Pharisees themselves removed books that God intended to be in the “Bible.”

Referenced Verses:

2 Cor. 5:18-19
18Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, 19namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

1 Cor 3:11-15
11For other foundation can no man lay besides that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if any one build upon this foundation, gold, silver, precious stones, wood, grass, straw, 13the work of each shall be made manifest; for the day shall declare it, because it is revealed in fire; and the fire shall try the work of each what it is. 14If the work of any one which he has built upon the foundation shall abide, he shall receive a reward. 15If the work of any one shall be consumed, he shall suffer loss, but he shall be saved, but so as through the fire.

1 Peter 1:7 so that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ;

Isaiah 48:10 “Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tested you in the furnace of affliction.

Zechariah 13:9″And I will bring the third part through the fire, Refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, And I will answer them; I will say, ‘They are My people,’ And they will say, ‘The Lord is my God.'”

Revelation 3:18 I advise you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself, and that the shame of your nakedness will not be revealed; and eye salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see.

Jonah 1:17And the Lord appointed a great fish to swallow Jonah, and Jonah was in the stomach of the fish three days and three nights.

[Three days and nights here is aion or aionos in the Greek or Olam in the Hebrew.]

You can read this for a little more indepth information on this aspect: http://planofgod.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/how-long-was-jonah-in-the-belly-of-the-beast-how-long-is-forever/

aión: a space of time, an age
Original Word: αἰών, ῶνος, ὁ Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine Transliteration: aión Phonetic Spelling: (ahee-ohn’) Short Definition: an age, a cycle of time Definition: an age, a cycle (of time), especially of the present age as contrasted with the future age, and of one of a series of ages stretching to infinity.

You can see how people could mold their view point’s depending on what translation they read.

Well, consider these translations of Acts 2:27:

NIV: because you will not abandon me to the grave, nor will you let your Holy One see decay NLV: For you will not leave my soul among the dead or allow your Holy One to rot in the grave. NASB: BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT ABANDON MY SOUL TO HADES, NOR ALLOW YOUR HOLY ONE TO UNDERGO DECAY. KJV: Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Here, we see the translations of the term “Hades” into English from various translators. When reading these passages above, do you not see a significant difference between their meanings as a result?

The term Hades seems to be equivelant to the term “Sheol” from the Old Testament:

KJV: For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell (SHEOL); neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. – Psalms 16:10 KJV: For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell (SHEOL). – Psalms 86:13 KJV: Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell (HADES), neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. – Acts 2:27

So, the KJV was crafted around the common Protestant and Catholic doctrine of Heaven and Hell, as the KJV (along with some other Bibles) LITERALLY translate the exact same word “HADES” to mean Hell, 10 times out of 11. Yet, the term means the “realm of the dead”, not “Hell” and appears to be the equivelant to “SHEOL” found within the Old Testament.

There is only one verse out of about 33,000 in the Bible that may say “eternal torment”, namely:

“And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. ” – King James Bible – Revelation 20:10

You can use this page as a reference to more indepth information on this. http://www.godrules.net/articles/eternaldeath.htm

http://www.godrules.net/articles/bibleterminology.htm#heavenhell

You can check out these videos:
Part 1 of 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4q1pb2-Y2Q

Eastern beliefs and Western beliefs differ greatly here. If you notice, there are great things happening in the East and we seem to be asleep in the West.   Here is another good tool to use to draw your own conclusions about this.

http://aggreen.net/beliefs/heaven_hell.html

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